[Expired]Arc'teryx Beta AR: Is It Worth Buying

: Um... I can say with certainty that this frequency definitely doesn't count as a hobbyist in the US... Hiking and mountaineering at least 6 times a year, and as for skiing, you can't even count it by the number of times—you'd need to ski for more than 30 days a year to be considered one. 呃。。。 我可以很负责的说这个频率在美国肯定算不了爱好者。。。远足登山至少一年6次 滑雪嘛 那都不能按次说 一年得滑30天以上差不多

: Columbia and Arcteryx have completely different market positioning. If you say a $100 product outperforms a $200 one, I might believe it. But if you claim something in the $100 range can outperform a $1,000 product, that doesn't even make logical sense. Whenever you get that feeling, I suggest you take a closer look in person—there must be something you haven't realized. Columbia和Arcteryx市场定位都是完全不同的 你说100美元的产品秒杀200美元的产品 我能信。但如果你说100美元级别的东西秒杀1000美元级别的商品，这个连逻辑都不通了。凡是你有这个感觉的时候，我建议你在实地考察一下 肯定有哪些东西没有意识到

: Isn't going to a harsh environment essentially asking for trouble? What does it have to do with what you wear... 去恶劣环境的地方本身不就是找死吗 和穿什么有什么关系。。。

回复 @圣彼得堡的国王 : If they're in the same positioning, what is there to compare? The price points are the same, and the materials are similar. Just buy whichever one you personally prefer, isn't that enough? Otherwise, why don't you tell me what brands are on the same level as Arc'teryx? Let's compare them too. I'd like to see how you can determine a winner... The essence of fashion is color and shape; the essence of performance is fabric. These are completely non-conflicting elements. If a brand excels in all aspects, it must be extraordinary, and the price will reflect that. 如果是同一个定位，有什么可比的吗？价位都一样，材质也类似。个人喜欢哪个就买哪个不就行了吗？要不你来说说什么是和arctyrex一个定位的？也来比一比。我倒要看看你怎么分出个胜负……时尚的本质是颜色和形状 性能的本质是面料。这是完全不冲突的元素。所有全素都同时具备的话 必然出身不凡 价格也有所体现就是了。

回复 @匿名用户 : Arcteryx and Moncler are not in the same category... and the concept of cost-effectiveness is highly subjective. The statement "Have you heard of Bogner?" lacks any logical basis and is purely about showing off. If we're discussing performance, let's focus on performance; if we're discussing fashion, let's focus on fashion. Arctyrex和moncler都不是一个定位…而且性价比这东西本身就非常主观。听没听过bogner这句话一点逻辑都没有，纯秀优越感。讨论性能就讨论性能，讨论时尚就讨论时尚

: No need to go hiking. My sister bought one, and she never hikes. She wears it every day and praises how great it is every time she puts it on. 不用上山，我姐买了一件，从来不徒步的人，每天穿，每次穿都要夸各种好

: Ghillie suit, might be pretty effective when playing real-life battle royale 吉利服，可能玩真人吃雞的時候比較厲害🤣

: Not warm at all, freezing to death, completely not worth it. 不保暖，冻死，完全不值得

回复 @beforeflower : You need to buy a thermal layer separately. 你需要单独买保暖层啊

回复 @海岛游乐园 : That's right, I ended up folding the stiff front part of the brim backward, and that made it much better. 没错，我后来干脆把它帽檐的最前面硬的一部份向后翻折起来，这样才好些。

: Agreed. The rope at the back can be adjusted slightly to make the hat shorter, but it will still obstruct the view to some extent. 同意 后面绳子可以稍微调节让帽子短一点 但是还是会一定遮挡视线