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: Can the 9800X3D be used for PS design software (work purposes) besides gaming? 9800X3D除了玩单机还能用于PS设计软件上么(工作用)
回复 @胖开 : It is, but with high-end GPUs like the 4090, the CPU can become the bottleneck because it handles complex instructions. A rough analogy: the CPU assigns tasks to the GPU, but the GPU finishes so fast it sits idle waiting for the next task—that's when the CPU is the bottleneck. 是更看显卡,但是如果是配高性能显卡例如4090, CPU 反而有可能是瓶颈因为调度处理复杂指令的还是 CPU. 打个可能不太恰当的比喻,CPU 把任务告诉 GPU 但是 GPU 太快了在下个任务来之前早早就处理完了没事干了,这个时候瓶颈就在 CPU
: Depends on your needs. If you're just photo editing, it's enough—unless you're doing 3D modeling or high-res video rendering. This CPU's work performance is only slightly better than the 9700X. Or put it this way: the 9800X3D costs $479, the 9700X costs $326. Are you willing to pay $150 extra for unbeatable gaming performance? 看你的需求, 如果你只是修图肯定是够的 不做 3D 建模高清视频渲染那种. 这 U 的工作性能大概只比 9700x 强一点点. 或者这么说9800x3d 卖 479, 9700x 卖 326你愿不愿意多花 150换独孤求败的游戏性能.
回复 @绅士唐 : Where did you buy it? 在哪买的?
: Bought a 7800X3D just a few days ago for 366-33, hasn't been delivered yet. Saw the price drop to 267 this morning—immediately contacted customer service for a price match, but they said no. Then the price shot right up to 399![[笑哭]](/assets/emoji/comment-emoji/dm_xiaoku@2x.png?v=1)
前几天刚买7800X3D,366-33,还没deliver今天早上就看到价格变成267了,马上找客服price match,客服说不能match,然后价格马上就变成399了![[笑哭]](/assets/emoji/comment-emoji/dm_xiaoku@2x.png?v=1)
回复 @Slog3 : 就amazon,刚去看了一眼,价格已经变成423了
就amazon,刚去看了一眼,价格已经变成423了
: Want to know if there's any difference between the 9950x and 9800x3d for 4k gaming 想知道4k游戏的情况9950x和9800x3d是否有区别
回复 @禅房 : Temps and power draw differ, but performance doesn't. The 98X3D mainly shines in online games and 1080p. At 2K, the difference shrinks. At 4K? Forget it. 温度功耗有区别,但是性能没区别。98x3主要还是网游和1080p上。2k差别都很小了。4k更别说了。
回复 @Cyder : No difference in temps and power draw? Also, I heard the clock speeds vary, and rumors say the 9953 has 128M dual-CCD shared L3 cache 温度功耗什么的也没区别么?还有我听说主频也不一样,还有传言说这次9953有128M双CCD共用L3
: Hey guys. Should I buy the 7900x or the 7800x3d? For running AI, playing FPS, and AAA games. 兄弟萌。买7900x还是7800x3d呀?跑ai玩fps, 3A
: If you're playing FPS, just get the 7800x3d, it's a clear winner. Anyway, AI also depends on the graphics card. 玩fps就别想了,秒7800x3d吧,反正AI也是看显卡
: X3D. AI has extremely low CPU requirements, so it's good enough. x3d, AI对 cpu 需求极低,差不多就行
: Still using a B350F motherboard with a 1600. Anyone know what I can upgrade to? b350f主板还在用1600 谁能告诉我可以升级哪一款
: 58X3D 58X3D
: So, when is the 9800X3D supposed to be released? 所以等9800X3D 那啥时上市呢
: By the time you're no longer excited about gaming, you won't be waiting anymore 等到你没激情玩游戏了你也就不等了
: Why can't the 5950x be bought anymore? I mean at Micro Center. 5950x为啥买不到了,我是说microcenter
最新评论 97
: Heads up—avoid this scam seller on Amazon. 给大家避一下雷 亚马逊上的骗子卖家
: Even the US is out of stock
. Why would you buy from a Chinese seller? 美国都缺货,
你咋会去找中国买家
: That price is sus. This guy's listing it at $199.89 today—total BS
. 你这价不对劲,这哥们今天199.89,一看就是扯犊子的。
: Still using a B350F motherboard with a 1600. Anyone know what I can upgrade to? b350f主板还在用1600 谁能告诉我可以升级哪一款
: 58X3D 58X3D
: The 5xxx series isn't worth it. Budget buyers should get the 7600; you can upgrade to 9xxx later without changing the motherboard 5xxx意义不大,预算低买7600,不换主板后续还能升级9xxx
: Can the 9800X3D be used for PS design software (work purposes) besides gaming? 9800X3D除了玩单机还能用于PS设计软件上么(工作用)
回复 @匿名用户 : It is, but with high-end GPUs like the 4090, the CPU can become the bottleneck because it handles complex instructions. A rough analogy: the CPU assigns tasks to the GPU, but the GPU finishes so fast it sits idle waiting for the next task—that's when the CPU is the bottleneck. 是更看显卡,但是如果是配高性能显卡例如4090, CPU 反而有可能是瓶颈因为调度处理复杂指令的还是 CPU. 打个可能不太恰当的比喻,CPU 把任务告诉 GPU 但是 GPU 太快了在下个任务来之前早早就处理完了没事干了,这个时候瓶颈就在 CPU
: Depends on your needs. If you're just photo editing, it's enough—unless you're doing 3D modeling or high-res video rendering. This CPU's work performance is only slightly better than the 9700X. Or put it this way: the 9800X3D costs $479, the 9700X costs $326. Are you willing to pay $150 extra for unbeatable gaming performance? 看你的需求, 如果你只是修图肯定是够的 不做 3D 建模高清视频渲染那种. 这 U 的工作性能大概只比 9700x 强一点点. 或者这么说9800x3d 卖 479, 9700x 卖 326你愿不愿意多花 150换独孤求败的游戏性能.
: Intel might as well shut down... Is Qualcomm still worth buying? intel真的可以关门了。。高通还买不买
: When will the 9950X3D come out? I can't wait to replace my degraded 13900K
9950x3d啥时候出。想赶紧把缩肛的13900K换了
: Want to know if there's any difference between the 9950x and 9800x3d for 4k gaming 想知道4k游戏的情况9950x和9800x3d是否有区别
: At 4K, there's basically no difference... because the bottleneck is the GPU... Yeah, you heard right—the 4090 can't keep up with the 98X3D 4k基本没区别….因为瓶颈在显卡上….你没听错 4090配不上98x3d了
回复 @匿名用户 : Temps and power draw differ, but performance doesn't. The 98X3D mainly shines in online games and 1080p. At 2K, the difference shrinks. At 4K? Forget it. 温度功耗有区别,但是性能没区别。98x3主要还是网游和1080p上。2k差别都很小了。4k更别说了。
: So, when is the 9800X3D supposed to be released? 所以等9800X3D 那啥时上市呢
: By the time you're no longer excited about gaming, you won't be waiting anymore 等到你没激情玩游戏了你也就不等了
: Wait for Arrow Lake 等Arrow Lake吧
: Waited for over a year and Arrow Lake is still not here 等了一年多 arrow lake裂开了
: Waiting for a big disappointment 等了坨大的
: After the Windows 24h2 update, the performance of the 9000 series increased by more than ten percent, but no improvement on Intel's side [laugh cry] windows 24h2更新之后9000系性能又提升了百分之十几,intel方面没提升
: [laugh cry] Incremental hardware
养成系硬件
: Intel improved as well, but there's not a single punctuation mark about it in Microsoft's documents intel也提升了 但是这件事巨硬文档甚至没提一个标点符号
: Bought a 7800X3D just a few days ago for 366-33, hasn't been delivered yet. Saw the price drop to 267 this morning—immediately contacted customer service for a price match, but they said no. Then the price shot right up to 399![[笑哭]](/assets/emoji/comment-emoji/dm_xiaoku@2x.png?v=1)
前几天刚买7800X3D,366-33,还没deliver今天早上就看到价格变成267了,马上找客服price match,客服说不能match,然后价格马上就变成399了![[笑哭]](/assets/emoji/comment-emoji/dm_xiaoku@2x.png?v=1)
回复 @Slog3 : That's true, but the 267 I saw this morning must have been fake... The seller wasn't Amazon itself, but someone with a suspicious name like xieguangxuan [laugh cry] 确实该这样,不过早上我看到的那个267应该是假的…卖家也不是amazon自己,而是一个很可疑的名字叫xieguangxuan
回复 @匿名用户 : I saw it and wouldn't even bother to match, just place the order and return it for free 我看到都不会去match,下单然后直接free return
: AMD: Bankrupt... Oops, grabbed the wrong day in the almanac—let the fight begin!! AMD:破产…不好意思拿错黄历了,剑来!!
: Performance boost is only compared to the neighbor's 149k baseline 6000MHz RAM
性能提升是相比隔壁149k baseline 6000MHz内存
: Waiting for the 5900× to drop to 208. 等5900×下208
: Taking turns squeezing toothpaste here
轮流挤牙膏啊
: No choice, the competitor next door is just too weak, they're totally done. 没办法,隔壁实在不给力,都烂完了
回复 @皮皮猫 : From what I see, at 4K resolution there's basically no difference from the 12th gen—it's more practical to just spend the money on a better GPU. 我看4k画质下跟12代基本没差距,还是把钱留给显卡实在
: AMD yes! amd yes!
: There have been tests before—newer AMD chips can achieve Intel 14th gen-level performance at just 35W or 45W, compared to Intel's 100W power consumption. 之前有过测试,新版amd 35w还是45w就能实现intel 14 代100W功耗下的性能表现
回复 @匿名用户 : Running at 140W to match the 14900KS's 300W power draw—that's amazing! 140W就干14900KS 300W的功耗,这多好啊
回复 @匿名用户 : I've got a fusion reactor in my backyard at home, so I don't care about electricity at all. 家里后院都有核聚变反应堆,不差那点电的
: Intel, say something! AMD isn't moving. intel你说话啊,amd他不动了
: Intel says: Wait a bit longer for me! AMD says, I can only wait for you until X3D. Intel说:再等等我!Amd说,我只能等你到X3D了
: I suggest waiting for Intel chips made by TSMC. To be honest, with Intel's manufacturing process lagging so much, it's not easy for the 14600k to still be basically on par with the 9700x. There's reason to look forward to the results after they switch manufacturing processes. 建议等台积电的Intel , 说实话,Intel 制程落后这么多的情况下,14600k还能基本持平9700x 不容易啊。有理由期待一下换制程后的效果。
: Based on current trends, it feels more rational to guess that the 15600K will be on par with the 14600K
根据目前规律,感觉猜测15600K打平14600K比较理性啊
: Intel is just brute-forcing power consumption to trade blows with AMD—switching manufacturing nodes isn’t a guaranteed fix either. Even if Zen5 is overclocked to ashes, it can still silently wipe the floor with i9
intel就纯靠拉功耗和amd打得有来有回,换制程也难说啊,Zen5超成灰烬也能默秒全i9
: The 9700x and 14600k are evenly matched, not to mention the 15600k will be out in a few months. At $350, it offers no price-performance value at all. It's an 8-core CPU for $350, and it's only on par with a $300 competitor. I'll wait for the X3D and next year's 15600k
9700x和14600k打的有来有回,别说再过几个月15600k就要出来了,350这个价格丝毫没有性价比可言,都350的u还是8核,和一个300价位的隔壁选手打的有来有回,等一手x3d和明年的15600k去
: Intel is just brute-forcing power consumption to go head-to-head with AMD—switching manufacturing processes might not even help
intel就纯靠拉功耗和amd打得有来有回,换制程也难说啊
: Waiting to see the launch price of the 15600K in a few months and the price of the 9700x after its price drop, haha. 等一手几个月后的15600K首发价格和跳水后的9700x价格哈哈