New Arrivals: New Copilot+ PCs from Microsoft Surface

: Why is this thing so expensive? Costco's bundle is $1600—why not spend a bit more for a gaming laptop and have some real fun? 这玩意为什么这么贵？Costco的bundle要1600，我为啥不加个几百块冲个游戏本爽一下？

: If you're into graphics work and have to choose between a tablet, I'd recommend Surface. iPad's Adobe suite is really lacking—can't even open PDFs in PS, how ridiculous is that? 如果你是图像工作且平板只能二选一建议买surface。ipad 的adobe是真不行。ps都打不开pdf不是扯么

: False advertising! Promised 999 with Snapdragon X Elite, but ended up being just X Plus. 虚假广告，说好了999高通骁龙X Elite，其实最后不过是x plus

: No student discount or special offers?! 没有学生优惠和其他特价吗？！

: Can't decide whether to buy this or the 13pro 也不知道是该买这个还是13pro

: Apple's M-series processors, with ARM architecture, are highly efficient and have specific app support. But Microsoft only has an ARM processor with improved efficiency; where are the apps supposed to come from? 苹果的m系列处理器，arm架构，能效高，且有专门的app支持。但是微软这边只上个arm处理器能效上来了，但是app哪来啊。

: Surface Pro 7+ is only worth a little over 180. Forget it, I'll just keep using it. Surface pro 7+ 只值180多点。扣。还是继续用着吧

: Their batteries tend to swell, and there’s no customer service—can’t get them repaired. 他们家的电池会涨 而且没customer service 不能修

: My old computer can be recycled by Microsoft for $540 towards a new one 😀 我的旧电脑微软回收$540可换新的😀

: What if a regular person like me doesn't know how to use it? You still have to spend money on software, and after buying all that, you'll just end up binge-watching shows anyway. 屁民表示不会用咋办？买这些软件还得花钱，买完继续刷剧。

: After comparing, the cheapest X Elite laptop is the HP OmniBook X: 16GB+512GB for $1149, 16GB+1TB for $1199. The best value should be the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x—X Elite+16GB+1TB+OLED for $1289. 比较了一下，最便宜的X Elite机器是HP OmniBook X，16+512 $1149, 16+1TB $1199。性价比最高的应该是Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x，X Elite+16+1TB+OLED $1289

: The cheapest 16+512+X Plus is the Dell Inspiron 14 Plus for $1099. 最便宜的16+512+X Plus的是Dell Inspiron 14 Plus $1099

: Someone's promoting Arm Windows again? Haven't you guys been hurt enough by their hardware? Remember Surface RT? It failed due to lack of apps. How's the software compatibility for this one? Please tell me it won't just be good for browsing the internet and asking ChatGPT questions, right? 又有人推Arm版windows？你们真的还没被他家硬件伤够吗？surfaceRT还记得不？输在没应用呀，这次这个的软件兼容性咋样？不会买来，只能上网，和问ChatGPT 问题吧？

: That's good. Gives Apple some pressure, so they don't keep their "ancestral" 8GB RAM. 挺好的. 给🍎点压力,免得祖传 8GB

: Theoretical performance can compete with M4, but there are no mass-production unit reviews yet. I wonder how the Windows optimization truly is. When will the embargo be lifted? 理论性能可以跟M4打打看了，但目前还没有量产版实机评测，不知道Windows究竟优化怎么样，啥时候解禁啊

: 2230 SSD, can be replaced without disassembly. This should be the best Surface ever. It's the first time I've had the urge to buy a Surface. 2230 SSD，不拆机就可以更换。这应该是有史以来最好的苏菲了。第一次有卖苏菲的冲动。

: PS, currently the strongest NPU on mobile. Does this mean local deployment of large models won't rely on VRAM? Let's see. Currently, Intel Ultra runs local large models starting at 70W power consumption, which is terrifying. PS， 目前移动端最强NPU， 看到本地部署大模型不用依赖VRAM了？ 看看，目前intel ultra 跑本地大模型，70W功耗起步，太恐怖了。

: This is very strong, mainly because Qualcomm's performance this time is very strong. A17 Pro and M2 have similar peak performance, but A17 Pro is clearly inferior to 8 Gen 3. There's no reason for this X SoC to be worse than 8 Gen 3, so at the same price as an MBA M2, it offers better performance, and it starts with 16GB. Battery life is also top-notch. It all comes down to compatibility optimization. If optimized well, it's a death countdown for x86. 这个很强，主要是这次的高通性能很强，A17 pro 和 M2 的峰值性能差不多，但是A17 pro 明显不如8gen3, 这X soc 没道理比8gen3差，所以和mba M2 同价的情况，性能更好，还是16G 起步。 续航也顶，就看兼容性优化了，优化好的的话，x86死亡倒计时。

: This pricing genuinely can't compete with Intel and AMD. 这价格定位真心推不动Intel 和 AMD

: Its functions are on par with the iPad, but its durability is lagging behind the iPad by a mile. 功能与iPad半斤八两，但耐用性就被iPad甩100多个街口