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问大家
: Can it run 4K 120Hz games?
能带动 4K 120Hz 游戏吗?
: There's not even a driver available—you can't even run Minesweeper. 驱动都没有,扫雷都开不了
回复 @venin : Minesweeper would work fine though - Linux version of Minesweeper. Who'd spend money on this for gaming? 扫雷还是没问题的,Linux版扫雷。 谁会花钱买这个打游戏?
: What is it for? 什么作用的?
: Is it used to train AI? 用来训练ai的吧
: How much VRAM does it have? 显存多大啊
: Can it run Minesweeper at 8K 144Hz? 能8k144扫雷吗
最新评论 28
: Ordinary people shouldn't buy this. It's for individuals or small companies to learn and do AI inference at home/in-office. Linux system + ARM CPU - worse for gaming than building a PC, less cost-effective for daily office work than Mac. Only recommended if you're into AI and want to train models/deploy local pipelines. This isn't mass-market consumer goods - not sure why Dealmoon is promoting this? 普通人不要买这个, 这个是给个人在家里或者小公司内部学习和推理AI用的,Linux系统+ARM CPU,玩游戏不如组pc,日常办公不如mac性价比高。如果是玩AI的,想自己训练模型和部署本地pipeline才推荐。 这个不是大众消费品来着的, 不知道省钱快报推这个干嘛?
: How much VRAM does it have? 显存多大啊
: NVIDIA is awesome but I'll still buy Apple nvida 好棒 但我还是买苹果
: A single RTX 4090 has 1321 computing power, not cost-effective 一张4090是1321算力,没有性价比
: It's the TX and Xiavia ultra-high-performance edition 就是TX 和 Xiavia 超高性能版
: It's cheaper than the 5090. 比5090便宜啊
: Can it run Minesweeper at 8K 144Hz? 能8k144扫雷吗
: It's not even as good as a Mac mini, and you can run most Windows games on that. 还不如Mac mini,大部分Windows游戏都能玩。
: $3999 for 128GB RAM and 276GB/s bandwidth—can it really beat the $3149 128GB M4 Max with 546GB/s bandwidth when running inference? $3999 128GB 276GB/s的带宽,跑inference打得过$3149 128GB M4 Max的546GB/s吗…
回复 @匿名用户 : It's not a joke. The current bottleneck for LLM inference speed is bandwidth. Essentially, token/s equals the size of memory occupied by active parameters divided by the bandwidth. For example, you can compare the full-speed Deepseek inference speed of the A100x8 and the M3 Ultra: 网页链接>> However, A100x8 still outperforms the M3 Ultra in other aspects of large models because it has CUDA. In summary, if we're just comparing inference speed (as the previous comment mentioned), this product isn't worth it. 还真没开玩笑,现在的LLM推理速度的bottleneck就是带宽,而且基本上是token/s 等于 active parameter占用的内存大小除以带宽。其中一个例子可以对比A100x8和M3 ultra的满血Deepseek推理速度对比:网页链接>>。不过A100x8因为有CUDA,所以大模型的其他方面还是完爆M3 ultra的。总之就是只比较推理速度的话(原评论说的),这个产品确实不值。
: M4 doesn't support CUDA acceleration. Apple machines can only run some optimized models - unoptimized ones won't even load, let alone train. An RTX 4090 trains LoRA 100x faster than my M2 MAX. M4不支持CUDA加速, 苹果机也就能跑一些有优化过的模型, 没有优化过的根本带不起来, 别说训练了。 4090训练LoRA速度是我M2MAX的100倍。
: Thought it was 4TB of memory. 以为4TB内存
: Can it run 4K 120Hz games?
能带动 4K 120Hz 游戏吗?
: There's not even a driver available—you can't even run Minesweeper. 驱动都没有,扫雷都开不了
回复 @venin : Minesweeper would work fine though - Linux version of Minesweeper. Who'd spend money on this for gaming? 扫雷还是没问题的,Linux版扫雷。 谁会花钱买这个打游戏?
: Mac Studio suddenly seems like a good value
Mac Studio突然就有了性价比
: Everyone says Apple's memory is made of gold, but Nvidia's is actually dozens of times more expensive than Apple's. 都说苹果内存金子做的,其实nv的比苹果贵十几倍。
: Super consumer exploitation machine. Nvidia is just desperate for money. 超级韭菜机 Nv想钱想疯了
: Its computational power is similar to the 5070 Ti. Just forget about it. 算力和5070ti差不多 睡睡吧
: It's so powerful, but all I care about is whether it can play games. 那么牛逼,我只关心能不能打游戏。
: What can it do? 能干吗
: What is this usually for? 这个一般是干什么的啊?
: I'm so poor! 我好穷!
: What is it for? 什么作用的?
: Is it used to train AI? 用来训练ai的吧
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