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问大家
: Is its image quality as good as the iPhone 16 Pro Max? 这个成像有iPhone16pro MAX好吗
回复 @匿名用户 : "No matter what phone HDR composite you use, its dynamic range can't match this camera shooting RAW" — do you actually understand dynamic range definitions and current mainstream data? So what if it's 11x larger? Current mainstream full-frame single-shot dynamic range maxes out at 15 stops, and at 15 stops, shadow areas are barely usable. An iPhone manages 11-12 stops per shot no problem, and for static scenes, a few composites easily crush single-shot full-frame. What's the point of being 11x larger? Do you think dynamic range scales linearly with sensor area? “你随便用什么手机HDR合成的动态范围,也赶不上这相机拍个RAW”,你真的了解过动态范围的定义和目前主流的数据吗?大11倍又怎么样,目前主流的全画幅单帧动态范围撑死15档,而且吃满15挡的时候暗部已经不太能看了,iPhone单帧十一二挡没啥问题,静态场景随便合成几张就吊打单帧全画幅了。大11倍有啥用?你觉得动态范围是按照面积线性堆叠的?
回复 @justaname : Because cameras don't need to do this. No matter what phone HDR composite you use, its dynamic range can't match this camera shooting RAW. Phones excel in convenience; cameras excel in image quality. The question was about whether the imaging beats an iPhone 16. Is it so hard to admit that a full-frame top-tier sensor with 11x larger area and more pixels outperforms a phone? 因为相机不需要做这个。你随便用什么手机HDR合成的动态范围,也赶不上这相机拍个RAW。手机的优点是方便,相机的优点是画质,问题的问的是成像有没有ip16好,承认一个比这手机传感器面积大11倍且像素还更多的全画幅顶级传感器比手机画质好,有这么难吗?
: Will it hold its value like the M10-D? After waiting for so long, it's still pretty much at its factory price.. 会不会像M10-D一样保值啊,等了那么久基本离出厂价还是差不多..
: Might as well buy gold bars for better value retention, and you don't need to take them out with you. 保值不如买金条呢,还省的带出门了
回复 @胖开 : Hahaha, waiting for a price drop is so hard
哈哈哈哈等降价好难啊
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: Actually, the Leica MD Typ 262 was like this years ago. The Fuji X-Pro3 also significantly reduced its screen. 其实多少年前 Leica MD Typ 262 就是这样了。 fuji xpro3也大大缩小了屏幕
: Like everyone surviving in North America: thrifty heart, spendthrift soul. 跟每个混迹北美的一样:省钱心 败家魂
: Seeing this price, my soul left my body
看到这价格,魂都没有了
: This soul is really muddling through 这魂,真是混啊
: Hasselblad still offers better value for money. 还是哈苏更有性价比
: Now that you mention it, that's true. 这么说 还真是
: Cheap, what a good price. 便宜啊,好价
: If you really want that analog vibe, might as well go shoot real film. This one's neither digital nor authentic film. With $6,000 you could develop 600 rolls of real film!
有这胶片心思 都回去玩真胶片了 现在数码不数码 胶片不胶片 6000刀能洗600卷胶片了
: Think about it differently; once the camera takes 20,000 shots, it pays for itself. 换个思路,相机拍到20000的快门就回本了
: This one actually looks pretty good, and it feels just right in hand. The only downside: it can't take photos. But the whole point of holding it is for someone to take a picture of me holding the camera—with my phone
这款看着还不错 拿在手上的重量也适中 唯一的缺点就是不能拍照 因为把他拿在手上就是为了拿手机拍我拿着这个相机
: Hahahahahaha 哈哈哈哈哈哈
: Forcing features when there's nothing meaningful. Might as well swap in a safe's combination dial as the lock, at least that would look more high-end. 没活硬整。不如换成保险箱的转盘密码锁,还可以显得更尊贵。
: If you can actually do something innovative with the saved space from removing the screen, then fine, no screen it is. But if you ditch the screen just to add an ISO dial, that's not just "extra for no reason"—that's like going to all the trouble of pulling your pants down, only to still end up with a mess in your underwear
你省去屏幕的空间要是能整出个新活,那没屏幕就没屏幕吧。关键是屏幕去了搞个iso拨盘,这都不能说是脱裤子放屁了,这是脱了裤子结果还拉了一裤裆
: No screen? That sounds a bit crazy
没屏幕 感觉有点疯
: Maybe they're just trying to keep a low profile so it doesn't get stolen. 不低调怕被抢吧
: It doesn't rip off the poor. 不坑穷鬼
: "Still capable of continuous shooting at up to 5 frames/sec at 60-megapixel resolution" – this is the slowest speed for 60-megapixel. The A7R4 from 2019, as the first 60-megapixel camera, already achieved 10 frames/sec. "6000万像素分辨率下仍能以高达5张/秒的速度连拍",这是6000万像素下最慢的速度,19年的A7R4作为第一个6000万像素就已经10张/秒了
: Is its image quality as good as the iPhone 16 Pro Max? 这个成像有iPhone16pro MAX好吗
: How could it be? The iPhone is invincible. 怎么可能,iphone天下无敌。
回复 @匿名用户 : The question is, now that there's AI, does it even make sense for me to carry a dumbbell-like device around?
问题是有了ai我背个哑铃出去有意义吗
: Will it hold its value like the M10-D? After waiting for so long, it's still pretty much at its factory price.. 会不会像M10-D一样保值啊,等了那么久基本离出厂价还是差不多..
: Might as well buy gold bars for better value retention, and you don't need to take them out with you. 保值不如买金条呢,还省的带出门了
回复 @胖开 : Hahaha, waiting for a price drop is so hard
哈哈哈哈等降价好难啊
: If it doesn't have the red badge, then just borrow one from "Happy Water" (Coca-Cola). 没有红标那就找快乐水借个好了
: Can get it for 1999-2999! 1999-2999可以入!
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Just went to a Leica event today and experienced what it feels like to hold something worth over ten thousand yuan in hand. Most "masters" chose the M. I experienced the amazingness of the SL 24-90. ![[666]](/assets/emoji/comment-emoji/dm_666@2x.png?v=1)
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今天刚去了leica的活动 体验了一把一万多块拿在手上的感觉。 绝大多数法师都选的M. 我体验了SL 24-90的牛逼之处
回复 @匿名用户 : Ah, congrats! I'm still using the SL. This is an event experience. The 20-60 is actually quite decent for a kit lens, and the focal range is solid. A good camera needs good lenses, my friend. Recommend checking out Sigma DG DN Art and Panasonic Pro series later. 啊 恭喜 我还在用 SL。 这是活动体验。 20-60其实在套头算不错的 焦距也很给力。好相机还要配好镜头啊朋友 推荐以后看看 sigma dg dn art 和Panasonic Pro 系列
回复 @匿名用户 : It's hard to say without getting hands-on. I'm still reviewing the original images and organizing them. 这个不上手的话,不好说 我还在看原图 在整理
: Buy it! Don't ask, if you ask, just buy it. Whoever buys it will be crying [🥺] 买啊 别问 问就是买 谁买谁眼泪汪汪🥺